《「十一五」與香港發展》行動綱領
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以下為二○○七年一月十五日在香港會議展覽中心舉行的《「十一五」與香港發展》經濟高峰會報告發布會記者會的答問內容:

記者:第一個問題,關於十號碼頭在報告�堥S有提到究竟起抑或不起,或者應不應該加快起,請問專題小組意見如何?另外在引入內地貨車司機方面,希望陸路跨境物流可能減低營運成本,其實怕不怕引起一個比較爭議性的問題,因為對於本地的就業司機來說,他們都怕飯碗打破,你們有何看法?

董建成:我想就十號碼頭我們的確沒有提出一個實質的行動,但在十號碼頭,或者我們將來要起新碼頭方面,我們都提議到在新一輪的一個貨運量的預測,應該是採取一個不同的方式,譬如我們應該是看整個華南區,尤其是珠三角貨量的增長,做一個基礎,同時亦看一下我們鄰近港口將來的計劃是如何的,然後才考慮何時要起新的碼頭。在早前已有一個報告說應該在二○一五年時有一個新的碼頭,但是我想在最近一個貨量預測來說,我自己的看法是如果用整個區域性角度來看,可能會有一個不同的感覺,亦都提議到我們要從成本方面做研究,在很多不同方面,尤其是陸上運輸,剛才說到卡車的運輸,成本如何降低,亦都要政府做一個深入的研究,譬如如果將來起碼頭時,建造成本是不是應該用一個比較不同的方式,不同的模式去考慮,在這個不同的建議�堶情A都是可以說要政府在研究後得到一個結論。第二個問題說到內地貨車司機,我想在我們的討論�堶悼蝟˙”魽A這是一個措施可以降低成本,但對香港整體社會方面的衝擊,都是要適當的研究的,所以我們提出來要政府做研究。同時說多一句,譬如另外一些地方好像是綠色通道,亦都是要政府去做研究,希望得到一個結論。

Reporter: This high-level mechanism that Mr Fung's group is proposing to supervise the implementation of policies related to improving air quality. How high should be the level for this mechanism and can you give more details about what mechanism should be. And a question for Mr David Li whose group has talked about the urgency for Hong Kong to do more to enhance its status as an international finance centre, mostly on establishing commodities futures markets, also options and futures markets. Can you elaborate on that?

Victor Fung: Thank you very much for the question. We think that the whole area of dealing with pollution is a very important issue and a lot of the possibility lies with us and the factories that we own on the other side of the border – the 60,000 factories. The government, together with all the major trade associations and many organisations like the Greater Pearl River Delta Business Council and so on have been working on this issue for some time, mainly working on the whole idea of voluntary programmes to adopt clean air charters and so on. And looking at ways to do clean production which I think is very important. What we think, the state that we've reached today is a state of implementation. I think it’s quite clear what needs to be done, what can be done. I think the time for study is over and I think what we are looking for is a high-level group within the government that could orchestrate the different departments in government and perhaps working with different sectors of society and also dealing with cross-border issues, cross-border officials and so on. As far as the level is concerned, we have not been specific but obviously our hope is that it should be as high as possible. It should be the CS or even the CE level if that is becoming a priority item for the community.

David Li: The study group basically has a lot of facts about the demand of China on mineral sources, which is great. Also, if you look at a recent statistic, China purchased about 30% to 40% of world oil. So we felt that rather than having all those contracts going to London or Chicago, why don't we bring them back closer to home because we are close to China, we are part of China. We are in the same time zone. Why benefit others, why don't we do it ourselves? And there's a reason why we urged the government to have a consultancy study done on how this can be achieved in the shortest possible time frame and what needs to be done in order to attract Mainland companies to use this exchange rather than going to London or New York.

記者:請問李國寶,在金融小組中提議,希望有一個常設的管道讓特區政府參與內地金融政策的制訂,請問這常設管道是不是類似committee,到底有什麼人參與?層次有多高?此外,小組又提議考慮調低印花稅,請問政府初步構思會調低多少?

李國寶:我們想最好香港和內地set up一個joint的,即大家一起的committee,來 look at different issues, 是有什麼?怎樣能夠 solve 到?這是高級的committee。大家要考慮的是這一事。

記者:有多高級?有些什麼人?

李國寶:有多高級?有些什麼人?這要由雙方去決定。

記者:第一個問題是問政府,「十一五」計劃由○六年至一○年,但現在已過了一年,是○七年了,我們是否慢了,以後怎樣追回時間,政府在執行方面,會不會跟得上。第二個問題是問董先生,就是報告提到跨境基建,特別是跨境基建要有區域性、有前瞻性,你是否覺得現時香港的基建上馬是非常慢呢?特別是區域快線,你剛才提要有專用線的,你可不可以說一說問題在那一方面,香港的基建上馬速度是否真的很慢呢?

劉兆佳:現在我所說的是要積極參與內地發展,通過與內地發展來提升我們自己的發展,一個互惠互利的過程。現時我們很認真地處理積極參與的問題,現時所說的就是我們並不是只談未來幾年,將來我們也想參與,包括第十二個五年規劃,我們都會積極處理,這變成現時所說並不是未來的幾年我們是否追得上的問題,我們所說的未來是一個很長遠的未來。現時來說,要努力、積極、快速地工作,盡量抓緊機遇來面對挑戰。

董建成:剛才所說的是比較前瞻的角度及區域性的一個基礎來做我們的規劃。剛才說到所謂區域性,我想我們應該以整個華南或是珠三角作為一個基礎、作為一個出發點。因為我們現時的經濟來說,香港已經是服務於華南和廣東省或是珠三角,所以我們一定要看整體珠三角的發展。說多一句,就是如你看二○○○年時深圳的港口,他們所處理的貨櫃量是四百萬個二十呎標準箱,去年達到一千八百至一千九百萬個左右,而在計劃�堨L們計劃在二○一○年會達到約四千五百萬個。這樣的增長,我們是否要參與?如果要參與的話,如何去參與?這變為一個區域性的衡量。所以我剛才所說到的區域或是前瞻,就是這樣的關係。

Reporter: Just a follow-up on the air pollution problem. You suggested there should be a master plan with short-term deliverables that are quick to implement. Can you be more specific as regards which kind of indicator that can add as a benchmark as whether we are able to achieve or tackle the air pollution problems.

Dr Victor Fung: We have not gone as detailed as that because it's really up to the committee that will be formed to really choose the indicators and so on. One thing I have learned is this. I'm not a technical expert on pollution, but the level of pollution, the indicators, actually in recent years have been improving. However, it is very important to also look at the visual side which actually, as we all know, perhaps has been going the other way. So the fact that the visual and actual indicators are two different things, I think one has to separate them. The fact that we have a very clear sky does not mean that pollution is very good. What we do feel on a more pragmatic level is that we need to have involved in this effort not only different departments and different sectors, but we need different disciplines – people who are experts in air pollution etc. We are also in need of people who are experts in let's say production – clean manufacturing capabilities. We should also go as far as having experts that are very strong in city planning. Why? Because a lot of pollution you can see in Wan Chai areas are trapped there because of the way that our buildings are structured and the wind direction (I'm told by the experts). What we are looking at is a comprehensive across-the-board implementation group that can actually formulate plans and objective deliverables for the short term, medium term and long term.

記者:現在粵港兩地有一個粵港兩地的合作會議,其實都可以推展到有些工作,但似乎未能夠就�茩輕銕雃h問題做到東西。其實現在「十一五」小組提出那麼多建議,亦需要內地協助的時候,其實兩地之間的合作,那基制可否進一步推展到呢?有沒有信心可以做到這件事呢?第二件事想問一問李國寶議員,你們的報告�堶探ㄗ駥ross trading,其實牽涉了兩地跨境那個結算交收,其實我們怎樣處理這個問題,是否需要建立一個系統去做這件事呢?

劉兆佳:我們這個回應不是針對廣東省的,當然很多是涉及廣東省,而是針對全個中國的。當然,我們的出發點就是說,從一個香港能夠為國家作出貢獻,和可以借助國家發展來提升自己這個角度去出發,從一個互利雙贏的角度去和內地各方面打交道。當然如果政府接受了這建議之後,自然會積極地循�茬o個目標和這些考慮和內地各方面進行探討。我們基本上對這個,對於達成已接受的行動綱領,這個目標我基本上保持樂觀態度。

李國寶:你問關於cross trading。Cross trading是以人民幣的,是嗎?Cross trading以人民幣,我自己個人希望政府很快與內地可以協議,很快內地便可以給我們可以用人民幣來做settlement。

記者:梁先生,你在那份報告�奡ㄔX要建立香港作為醫療中心,但香港現時的公營醫療體系已經有很大的壓力,加上最近內地孕婦的問題,你覺得香港會不會有這樣的能力或是承受能力去作為一個醫療中心?另一個就是在私人執業方面,你在報告�埵n像沒有提及如何去吸引,譬如在地區�堙A如深水�鶧洈甄憟穻p何回內地發展,這有點似是一個空想的感覺。

梁振英:多謝你這個問題。首先,我們並不是談公費醫療,我們並不是說以香港納稅人的金錢或以政府的公帑來為非香港居民提供醫療服務。我們所說的是把香港發展成為一個醫療中心,正如世界上有很多其他的醫療中心一樣,他們是以私費醫療、自費醫療的方式來為海外的非當地居民、非當地公民提供服務。我們的能量問題,大家都知道,我們現在有不少的醫生仍然有足夠的接納或是為外地的病人提供醫療服務的把握度,大家經常聽到我們現時有很多年輕醫生,他們在受訓後,離開大學繼續實習一段時間後,跟�茈i以掛牌做醫生,但工作量是不足的。我們現在受壓力比較多的是一兩種醫服務,尤其是內地產婦來香港,利用香港的公費醫療服務,這個壓力是最大的,亦引起與《基本法》有關的問題,我們所談的是較這個面更闊得多,事實上,現在有不少香港的醫生,尤其是一些專長於治療慢性病,譬如眼疾、牙科的醫生,他們都有這樣的反饋內地和海外其他地區的病人到來按香港的市場化的收費標準獲取香港的醫療服務,這個趨勢是愈來愈大的。

Reporter:? Two questions. Does this whole process that you have been through, the reports you have done, the recommendations, does this represent a departure in the way that Hong Kong and Hong Kong businesses would do business in future, change the way of thinking. If so, how? The second question is specifically on infrastructure. The infrastructure report seems to be saying that instead of having supply to meet demand, that supply should be developed ahead of time in order to create demand. I'm wondering whether that’s a correct interpretation of what’s recommended.

Leung Chun-ying: I don't believe there is a fundamental departure from the government's well-practised philosophy of policy in promoting Hong Kong's economy and economic activities. If you read the whole report you will realise that the role of government is essentially the same that the government has adopted over the last few decades. This is to facilitate the government's role as a G to G (Government-to-Government) and G to C (Government-to-Consumer) facilitator. Much in the recommendations and the action reports proposed by the four groups require Hong Kong Government to act in tandem with various Mainland authorities including the Central Government. This is G to G. And no one else in Hong Kong could substitute the HKSAR Government in discharging that duty. Secondly, much of the recommendation also rests on this G to C promotion – government through government agencies whether it's TDC or Hong Kong Tourism Board will have its responsibilities squarely on its shoulders to promote Hong Kong as a tourism centre, as a professional services centre, as a trading centre, as a transport hub to consumers whether they are private individuals or enterprises on the Mainland or overseas. My short answer to your question is that the way I see it, government has not really changed its philosophy or its role in a fundamental way.

Victor Fung: I think what we are really now seeing is that we need to think about making sure Hong Kong has the capability to handle the flows over time. We are talking about the flow of people, flow of goods, flow of funds and flow of information. What we should be thinking about is making sure that the capacity of these flows and the connectivity of these flows are very much matching the needs to the extent that the sources of where these flows are coming from and where they are going to. We need to be anticipating that. To answer your question, in terms of just physical infrastructure – the flow of people, the flow of goods – I think we need to recognise that the whole process is once a process that’s long lead time and hence we need to anticipate both the capacity we need and also where we would connect to. Our job, I think, in terms of thinking through the infrastructure in Hong Kong is to anticipate this. And especially in view of the long lead time to put programmes in place so that the capacity constraints and the connectivity issues never become a constraint to Hong Kong's growth and Hong Kong's needs. We always need to actually make sure that the availability of capacity in infrastructure and where it’s connected to – I would like to emphasise both – is always being put in place in anticipation and ahead of demand. I don't think it's the idea of using infrastructure, building a drive demand. I don't think we've never thought about that, but it's important to think about just in time and given the long lead time and anticipation and some of the uncertainty of the demand we need to put in the infrastructure with a safety margin on a just-in-time basis.

Tung Chee-chen: If I may supplement. So far as the infrastructure on the marine side, cargo side or logistics side is concerned, what we are suggesting is that Hong Kong cannot consider itself to be an isolated entity and to the extent there are available cargo for Hong Kong to handle. If it is in excess of current capacity then we decide to build terminals and so on. We must look at the region as a whole and then say what is the participation we wish to achieve. To that extent obviously, that a competition, whether cost-competitiveness is basically we are on par with what’s in our neighbouring cities. Therefore, if you look at the study itself, we are talking about overall total competitiveness being one of the foundation and hence the land transportation consideration, even to the extent we are talking about software, we are talking about efficiency, we are talking about IT system and including, for instance, the overall construction cost for whatever new facility. If you look at the whole cost structure and then we say this is what we need to do to become competitive. Together, looking at the entire region growth as I cited earlier, in 2000 Shenzhen handled about 4 million TEUs, last year about 18.5 million TEUs and in 2010 the anticipation is rising to about 45 million TEUs. We need to consider the totality in terms of the growth of available marketplace, if you will, for Hong Kong and determine whether we are competitive. If so when do we need to build in additional capacity. It's in that context that the report was put together.

記者:我想問你一個問題,就是你在八十項建議中,有些是有具體日期,例如○七年上半年或是○七、○八年落實的,但有兩項:人民幣自由行及外匯自由行的time frame是短至中期,我想問其實大約可不可以說到短至中期來說的時間是多少呢?以及當這些措施可以落實時,你估計香港的人民幣資金的流通量會達到怎樣的規模呢?

李國寶:有很多我們沒有設時間表,原因是要兩方面商談的,所以如果我們說我們想有那麼快就那麼快,我們當然是想盡快做到,但如果是時間性有些問題,不可以得到,但我想金管局和政府都會很快與內地再商談這些事情。

記者:你說另外的建議�堛滌U管證明書,是否就是大家業界時常都在說的CDR?

李國寶:是,是CDR。

記者:這方面的落實時間有多快呢?

李國寶:我可以告訴你,CDR方面我自己在六年前已經寫信與國家商談的,到現時為止仍然未有回信給我。

記者:想繼續問李國寶先生關於人民幣自由行方面,會否反使在時間表內繼續加劇人民幣的炒賣情況?另外,請問董先生,引入船舶噸位稅來作為稅項,背後有甚麼理念?會否影響香港的競爭力?

李國寶:我個人認為是不會的有這方面的情況,國家監察人民幣是很緊的。

董建成:關於船舶噸位稅,其實不一定要採取這個噸位稅,希望政府研究其餘航海國家有很多不同的稅制給予公司選擇,噸位稅只是其中一個選擇,因為愈多選擇,越多可能性會使不同公司因為有不同的操作理由,如希望選擇噸位稅的,而香港有這種稅項的話,便會來香港設立辦事處或作為基點。

記者:請問劉教授,大家好像期望「十一五」弄到很大很大,有二百多個建議,其實有很多是政府正在進行,甚至很多是在施政報告中提出,你會否覺得雷聲大雨點小,給人一種炒冷飯之感?此外,請問李國寶,你們說想減印花稅,上星期周文耀也同樣說過要減印花稅,你們的研究希望政府減多少?以及可以做到什麼效果?

劉兆佳:怎樣回應「十一五」規劃,當然不是專家小組或者高峰會之前沒有做過任何事,當然有事做過。今次的討論是集合了政府和民間,特別是商界的智慧,有很全面性的、前瞻性的,並且有不少從前沒有想過的,或者想過但不敢提出的建議。今次你可以說是從整體角度看,即香港會如何配合「十一五」規劃,以及如何面對我們未來發展而提出的最全面性的、最前瞻性的一個建議,要從這角度看才可。當然,你要說全部的事都要沒有人提過,這是沒可能的,問題是,今次經過這麼多人去研究、篩選而得出一個比較切實可行的、對香港特別有利且有利於內地發展的,才符合雙方利益,你要從這一角度去看,便會較明白高峰會和專題小組的工作的重要意義之處。

李國寶:關於印花稅,我們當然覺得交越少稅給政府愈好,同時希望愈少稅越多人可以買賣股票。現時已有幾個國家完全沒有印花稅。

記者:我想問馮先生及董先生,因為你們兩份報告都提到鐵路的連接問題,有一個牽制,就是要等九鐵靠他們的商業經營的效益來決定是否開辦新鐵路。似乎你們所表達的是香港需要一個新鐵路來連接內地,但又受到這個商業原則的限制,這個宿命,你們覺得如何可以打破它呢?另外,還有一個問題,就是問一問劉教授,我們衡量這個行動綱領,在「十一五」完結之後,你覺得我們如何及依據甚麼準則去評估這個行動綱領是成功或失敗呢?

董建成:我們在關於廣深港的高速鐵路方面,實質上在報告�奡�議應該以前瞻的角度,以一個「專用通道」方式來銜接國內的鐵路網。

劉兆佳:這個行動綱領相當程度亦匯集到政府同事的參與及智慧,因為有很多不同政策局的同事都有份參與。所以從這個角度看,並不是由民間給政府這麼簡單,而是民間與政府一同合作的產品,在這個情況下,如果你說要衡量它的成敗得失,我想有以下幾個準則。第一是看這個行動綱領被政府接受的程度如何,我相信是相當高的。第二,就是要看一個行動綱領在落實過程中,究竟有多少可以落實得到,這是靠大家來觀察,這方面將來會看到的。當然,第三點就是當落實行動綱領後,會產生甚麼效益呢?這也是將來的事情。所以最低限度,有這幾個準則來衡量行動綱領的落實情況。

馮國經:我想就董先生剛才所說關於鐵路方面有少許補充。我自己的立場是十分清晰的,我覺得香港一定要參與國家的鐵路網,一定要接駁到國家的鐵路網,所以在港珠澳大橋,我覺得一定需要有鐵路,正如剛才你提到那個小組所說的例子,其實應該是有一條專道作為快線的。我覺得在航空的領域、在海運的領域,以及在路面,即是行車的領域,我覺得香港所謂被邊緣化的機會並不大,其實我並不顧慮這方面。反而在鐵路網方面,我認為香港是有機會被邊緣化。所以在這方面,我們要很小心看這個問題,將來不單止人流的問題,貨流方面鐵路是一個很主要的交通工具。如果香港不能接駁到全國的鐵路網,我看將來我們在貨運方面可能會產生一些問題。

記者:現時的問題就是你們在報告中也寫出九鐵要考慮他們的經營效益問題,如果九鐵不做的話,是否我們就會眼瞪瞪看�茩輕銂瘍K路網被邊緣化呢?

馮國經:小組方面亦有談過這個問題。我建議你問一問九鐵。

記者:你們在報告中提及一些具體回應,譬如九鐵,甚至你們說的一些長遠才可達到的目標,其實我覺得反應並不如特首所說的那麼進取,那麼fast forward,而是我們沒法知道長遠要做多久,譬如鐵路,兩鐵的反應,從你文件所說,是很冷淡的,甚至其實你們除了「專用通道」之外,你們也要求就過境人流加開班次,但他們的反應是非常冷淡,那麼關於這個行動綱領,我們最後怎樣評估你們呢?第二,梁先生在你的報告中提及,譬如醫療方面,你覺得是長遠的,你亦都提到,兩地醫療的體系、價值和制度是完全不同的,首要究竟我們應先在內地設診所或醫療機構,抑或先拉近兩地的差距?甚至牙醫賣廣告,該怎樣做呢?因為連醫生都有這麼大的爭議,你只是提到這是一個長遠要做的,其實最終劉教授並沒有說我們最後怎樣評估你們做得如何?但從報告來看,都不是那麼具體和進取。

董建成:我們小組的報告並不是為一個行動做一個很具體的、陳列出每一個行動的時間表,最重要的是看到問題,希望達到一個結論,就結論做一個提議,提議交給政府去做研究,如何去實施和落實,這是小組的職責。

梁振英:我只能夠代表我負責的專題小組答這個問題。在開工之前,在過程當中,以至我們遞交報告給政府的時候,我自己對專題小組工作的意義,是非常清楚。首先,捉到老鼠就是好貓,但老鼠是不容易捉的,如果容易的話,根本就不需要搞這一個高峰會,不需要四個小組,不需要找人做小組組長、召集人,再找專家、政府官員等大家花這麼多的時間,一齊去理解這些問題,一齊去找出一些方案出來,所以如果容易的話,它們本身已經發生了,香港是一個非常高效率的社會,我們有一個非常高效率的市場經濟體系,如果容易的話,不需要政府做這一個動作,它已經發生了,所以我覺得我們今次的工作非常好,但我們無意給大家一個印象,至少就我這個組的工作來說,以為我們交了一個報告給政府,政府交給內地,或者交給中央,至此就解決了,自自然然就發生,後面仍有很多跟進工作要做,我們今次花了四個月的努力,特點在那�堜O?第一就是我們整個社會,包括相關的業界,相關的團體,譬如專業團體,和政府一齊,我們每次開小組會和分組會,我確實覺得印象非常深的,是所有政府相關部門,由政策局以至執行部門,都派相當層次的官員、人數非常多的官員,和業界坐在一起,共同去考慮問題,所以現在交出來的報告,並不是業界一廂情願的wish list,而是大家經過深入的探討,認為這些至少是值得我們推動,是有可為的綱領。第二點就是我們全面就香港經濟發展未來主要方向,以及幾個主要行業做一個完整的大檢閱,我們廣化、具體化,而且是深化,整個過程得到政府的配合和支持,是業界和政府共同努力的成果。將來何時才可讓大家,無論業界和香港市民,感覺到過去四個月大家努力的成效?當然我們不同的建議,會有不同的時空,有些在未來一兩年可以做到,有些希望可以在「十一五」規劃期間做到,有些可能要再等一些時間,但這些都是我們努力的方向。就剛才我說的幾個特點來說,加起來確實是整個香港社會,政府和業界大家作出一次非常好的努力。

記者:劉教授,香港是第一次出台這樣一個與國家的規劃相連的一個行動綱領。請劉教授評價一下這項行動綱領,就是對香港未來經濟發展將起到一個甚麼樣的作用?第二個問題就是香港政府過去一直對經濟採不干預政策,現在也有人認為這樣的行動綱領是對這個政策一種干擾或是一種破壞,你怎麼看?

劉兆佳:我先回答第二個問題。政府這個做法本身並沒有違背過去經濟發展策略,這些我們都不是跑進市場作為一個參與者,而且現在做的工作主要是為香港開拓市場,主要目的是增加香港的競爭能力。所以在這方面來說,本身就是政府應該要做的工作。從這個角度來說,現在我們是針對國家「十一五」規劃,我們也知道現時在國家的發展過程當中,政府可以扮演一個相當重要的角色。從這個角度來看,假如現在政府不從比較枝節角度來處理我們跟內地政府、中央政府、地方政府的關係,我們也沒有辦法能夠達到我們要為香港開拓市場,為商界開拓市場、為專業界開拓市場這個作用。所以這方面來說,急切針對內地發展,在原有的基礎上進一步做好政府的工作。這些工作基本上是尊重市場這個基礎上。第一個問題就是這個工作本身也顯示到政府跟商界以至跟民間人士,共同為香港未來的經濟發展出謀獻策。一方面回應了香港人對我們未來的經濟發展的方向,應該怎麼走,找出一個答案;另外,也是通過工作來達致這方面的共識,使到我們將來的工作,特別是在推進行動綱領的過程當中,比較容易產生一個比較順利、達成效果的作用。

梁振英:劉教授,我補充一、兩句。這樣的事情我們要處理,有三個層次。最高的層次是政府Government,英文字母是G;中間的層次是企業和工商界Business,B;下面的層次是消費者Consumer, C。我們現談的是第十一個五年規劃,「十一五」是內地的規劃。在中國內地大家都知道很多事情不是B to B可以解決的,必須要有政府的政策法規。很簡單,要是在國外,香港的專業團體要談專業執業,就在香港專業團體跟澳洲、新加坡、馬來西亞、英國的專業團體談就行了。但在內地就必須跟政府談,我們不可能做到香港專業團體跟中央政府談這個問題,必須要政府與政府之間去談這個問題,所以在我們怎麼去,你說配合也好,或是我們借助內地第十一個五年規劃能夠刺激,推動香港經濟發展,很多事情確實是由於內地的情況必須政府出馬。很多是G to G的事情,所以這個報告�堶悼]涵了很多政府與政府層面的一些建議。

記者:想問一問,今日四位交了報告之後,其實四位是否完成了所有工作呢?剛才大家都關心,在日後跟進這些報告的行動綱領、建議,其實你們會不會有些角色,會否跟進,和跟�荂u十一五」執行去到中期的時候,其實政府會否檢討一下,剛才在二百幾項�堶情A做到多少呢?去到中期會否向市民交代一下,那些內容究竟是否落實到?可否四位都說一下自己是否覺得已完成了自己的角色?

梁振英:就專業那方面,我的其他的職責,包括專業聯盟的職責,及在行政會議,政府有需要的話,我一定會繼續去支持,配合政府這方面的工作。作為一個專業人士來說,我很希望今次這個報告�堶惘雂硒N專業範疇�堶探ㄔX的建議,不單只得到特區政府的支持,亦都得到中央政府以至內地其他部委的支持。我相信剛才說的專業是一個例子,其他的分組,或者大膽說,其他的三個小組,可能都會有同樣的願望。

馮國經:我認為,在我自己的小組,我覺得我會在不同的領域�堶情A亦會關注很多問題。不單只我的小組,我自己,都關注機場基建等等。我覺得有很多東西,我們一定要提升,和創造一個好好的香港品牌,這些其實是一個很長期需要做的東西,不是一朝一夕。這件事不是說可以定一個目標,例如十八個月,十八個月後交功課那類事情。我想我們最重要要明白的,就是我們這次起首做一個很全面的檢討。劉教授用的字我覺得用得很好,商界和政府一同做一個很全面的檢討,找到一些以前可能想過或者又怕做不到,或者曾經想過不敢說出來的,但現在都把這些表達出來給社會大家知道。大家可以監察,傳媒也會間中問問政府,甚至問一問我們,曾經說過那些(建議),現在做到那�堜O?我覺得這個對我們香港將來的發展是邁進了一大步。

李國寶:我會在立法會和行政會議那�婺繲i政府,看看他們怎樣去做。

董建成:我們的小組,其實可以透過航運、物流發展局,在這個同樣的問題上時常討論,所以一定會有很密切的跟進。

Reporter: You said you would try to increase the quota for non-local students in Hong Kong and to relax restrictions for their working part-time. My question is (1) to what degree would those relaxations be, (2) whether the work entails on-campus or off-campus work, and (3) would it affect the local workforce?

Victor Fung: Now I’m wearing my hat as chairman of the Council of Hong Kong University. I think there has been a tremendous amount of progress already made in terms of using non-local students in our tertiary educational institutions. Five years ago the number was 2%. We have now reached the 10% range and I’m not satisfied. I think Hong Kong should have 20% or more. I think it’s very important if we aspire to create world-class universities in Hong Kong and training our next generation of leadership that we actually have a chance to give our own people the opportunity to rub shoulders with the best and brightest from around the world, including the Mainland. I must emphasise non-local does not mean only the Mainland. We certainly would like to make Hong Kong a cosmopolitan place that includes people from Southeast Asia, from America, from Europe etc. I think it’s essential for the development of talent in Hong Kong that we move in this direction. Of course, if we ask these people to come it would be best if we are able to also give them an opportunity to stay and add to our talent pool. And to make it more attractive for their stay we want to give them some working experience and that is also very important for their education and for them to know about Hong Kong and use Hong Kong as a platform to learn about the rest of the world. All these are contributing very much to the overall development of talent. I am not concerned about the potential competition and so on, primarily because we will be attracting talent at a very high level that would actually have the effect of moving forward different sectors of the economy if they do stay and become part of the workforce. They will benefit job creation generally in the entire workforce. At the same time I think that level of talent is also very mobile. I hope they will stay but if they don't stay I don’t think it’s Hong Kong's loss. Why? Because if we have a group of people on the Mainland or in Southeast Asia that have been educated in Hong Kong, who know about Hong Kong and understand Hong Kong culture, that will be a huge force to actually promote Hong Kong and allow a very important and creative workforce for our people as we expand in those places. All in all I think this is a very important part of the whole programme. I think a very important specific part of what we want government to help with is for example allowing the opportunity to create dormitories to house them, otherwise there is no way to increase the intake. So this is the direction.

記者:我想問梁振英先生,剛才你提到會鼓勵香港的醫生回內地作私人執業,但過往可能其他的專業,好像律師也用了相當時間,面對�茷雃h困難。今天在你們的計劃也說了時間表方面也是長期持續進行,今天是不是也是給了香港的醫生一個「假希望」呢?

梁振英:香港的律師和很多其他的專業人士,沒錯在過去數年花了很多時間,但同時在過去幾年,他們無論在與內地取得資格互認,考內地的試或是取得CEPA�堛漱@些對香港在內地執業放寬,這三方面都取得很大的進展,所以所有這些努力,包括律師在中國內地的努力,是完全沒有白費的,我相信我們以後繼續努力,無論是律師也好、醫生也好,我想繼續努力一樣可以取得過去幾年一些突破性的發展。我們所做的工作,我們不能夠完全用鼓勵,如果我沒有理解錯,你用「鼓勵」這兩個字的意思,並不是完全用鼓勵香港專業人士到內地發展,我們希望做到的是甚麼呢?是通過香港業界和特區政府的努力,得到中央政府及各個部委的支持,可以降低香港專業人士在內地執業的門檻。降低這些門檻、排除了障礙,可以給予香港專業人士,包括醫生在內地可以有資格執業,亦可以作為外資在內地獨資擁有事務所的情況下,由香港的專業人士自己自由選擇他是否應該進入內地發展。

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